IS the legacy mode back yet?
Posts by Sayhi
Its a fact a lot of new players would prefer to play legacy mode. Real life example. My friend seen me playing legacy mode, asked what game it is, he did want to try it also. He did not like new mode and even did not finish 1 game, cos he wanted same look as mine was, legacy mode.
This type of games play a lot of adults and they prefer simple, understandable look.
If to give chance for new players to try legacy mode a lot would switch, start playing.
Sad, New players would love legacy mode.
Will try finish my last game on this new mode, I dont like it at all.
"I could see my enemies all armies positions and count, same happened, one of the enemies could see mine. In some games I had spikes on some parts of armies and movements without share of map."
- This could be due to intel from espionage (spies)
"Shown travel times do not match with actual travel time."
- Sometimes, indicated travel times are not updated to take into account newly capture provinces, railway etc..
"At some spots on map when arty ordered to attack, its just do not attack."
- I sometimes experience this as well, don't know how to solve it.
"When enemy are in my arty range, arty do not open fire and enemy could get into melee range without 0 shots from my arty, same I could do to enemy"
- Maybe the artillery is set to 'return fire' or lower firing mode?
"Bomber attacking to moving target ( ship ), bomber gets to old position and sharp turn like 110 degree and adds 15 minutes to airplanes travel time."
- This happens when the target has a substantial change in position since the bomber took off.
"Submarine got stack in the middle of North America and could not move it."
- I have seen this happened before too.. Don't know how to solve it.
yeah you could be right about spies. Its seems like, somehow never noticed that. How many sabotage spies need then to reveal all armies? ITs silly I can see even every single submarine. pffff
Thats sorted, I will edit then.
Shown travel times do not match with actual travel time.
At some spots on map when arty ordered to attack, its just do not attack.
When enemy are in my arty range, arty do not open fire and enemy could get into melee range without 0 shots from my arty, same I could do to enemy.
Bomber attacking to moving target ( ship ), bomber gets to old position and sharp turn like 110 degree and adds 15 minutes to airplanes travel time.
Something odd going on with airplanes, sometimes cant see where exactly are those planes and some wrong travel times appear, at least visually .
Submarine got stack in the middle of North America and could not move it.
Maybe something has changed ingame mechanics, I just returned after some time.
All sorted, button appeared.
Delete this topic.
I really loved this game up until a couple of years ago - started playing 6 or 7 years ago and found it really great fun for a strategy game enthusiast, but what made it pleasing was the simple graphics and almost 100% focus on the strategy - not a million thrills, frills whistles and bells - to me at least - so where did the old graphics settings go? at one point a few years ago you could still choose the old graphics settings to avoid all the bloated disturbing graphics, animation and all the rest and still only see the poster pins instead of the cheezy soldier figure graphics and all the rest. administrating cities was a clean and really fast interface to get a lightning quick overview of what was happening in your production cities and so on, but now its all a distracting muddle of graphics that just obscures all information.
I wish and hope there still is a way to just choose to play with the old graphics - I played for half a decade almost, and I played a *lot* compared to most players - more often than not juggling 3-5 games or more, but I will never play this game with the current graphics setup. The very reason I am attracted to a strategy game like this is exactly that: focus on strategy, not graphics - which also means clarity - oversight - abstract thinking, moving ideas and monitoring logistics - I'm not in it for tons of overblown graphics, annoying sounds, even more annoying animation and so on.
The reason the graphics always fail when they get too detailed is that they change the entire feeling of a game - noone has the same mental image, so when you decide *for* people, instead of letting them imagine their forces for themselves, you subtract something instead of adding something. To make it plain and howlingly obvious in an extreme example: theres a difference between having say your soldiers and graphics look like they came from a mold of candy crush or angry birds - or having them look as simple and "clean" as say "Civilization 1".
Every choice you make beyond representing each unit as a circle/ballon pin, or a pin with a square head, triangle head, etc is a move AWAY from strategy and into a completely different graphics and playstyle *FEEL* of the game.
I think for many of us older players, we played the game (and left the game) because of its graphics, the feeling of being a real general looking at a real map, with actual pins made it feel MORE realistic and the more "realistic" the soldier models get the LESS realistic the game feels, and more like playing with toy soldiers than being an actual intelligent general who can deal with abstractions like pins on a map.
So, this is a plea for a cleaner version / a completely cleaned up version of the game back to the old style.
I know I can never get back into the game as it looks right now, nor will I ever want to.
Sorry to say, you had something magical, and you chose to remove it, discontinue it, and replaced it with something that now looks like a bland boring copy of all the other similar browser strategy games out there.
Sorry, but this is how I feel about it and have felt for a long long time, ever since I saw the new graphics and could never restart playing even though I tried 3-5 times.
I hope the makers and owners realize what they lost and how much they lost when they removed the option to play this game in the old style - let's hope they get this message and decides to create something for all those of us who have stopped playing because of this and would really like to play if we had the old strategy aspect focus back again.
All the best from Oslo, Norway
Cheers. True North
Old players have learned the game and do not spend that much GM and they have to keep old style servers up.
A lot of new player would play old school looking game also, but they dont have a chance to play it. Friend of mine, seen me playing old style game and was keen to try it also, but he had no option to play it, new looking game he did not like.
I cannot stand new style game.
Keep it simple, apple success story.
Then more you will play, then more annoyed you will get about GM. At least to me this is the most p2w game what I ever played.
So much disappointment I had after spending zillion hours spent time and planning tactics ingame. Last game what we played, all coalition members agreed to retire from this game, cos its was brutal. We had Asia and Pacific, from Americas were incoming army, we surrounded them at ocean, but we decided to let their army disembark at Japan and at that moment open fire on them, as that would be the most efficient. Amercias managed to disembark I dunno like 5 troops from all their army and in seconds they did build up, factories, rails, railguns, fighters, bombers tanks, you name it.
All strategy and planning out of the window.
Another game what stack in my game. Neightbour was blowing up my infrastructure with GM without invading me and NON stop fixing his airplanes after each raid. Impossible to do something against him. Blowing up my rails with GM, railguns stuck, fighters going down, cos I did not fix them with gm and so on. And on top of that player were toxic AF, cos he was the man u know.
A lot of games where enemy just bought victory and time was lost for nothing.
Just give players both modes and you will keep more attracted players, some just leave the game cos of new model, maybe will stay and will enjoy legacy mode.
Im at 4 place in game, global popularity was around 40% and I did start the war
So I gathered a bit info. 3 cases so far.
Firs member said -
I have no idea, I was offline. When I logged in to check on the troops, they were already attacking former ally forces. According to DE I attacked him, which of course I had not done. We made peace by accepting a share map offer.Even though peace was established, our relations updated, the same with the paper where the usual article appeared, markets open again etc.. some of the sea travelling troops kept on fighting. After a while a new article popped up in the paper that DNG attacked me. And war continued.
Other one, had same when he was offline, what I could see, his single arty was at AI range and its could start war.
And to me, coalition member left, cos went inactive. At first hours when he went inactive I had right on the way, I sent in troops to take positions to take over at morning. I logged in and I was at war with that nation.
Will keep updating if something similar will happen.
My coalition members and I had in last few days some bug. Our nations just start war with friendly nations. Few times in ocean and also on land. Is this bug for legacy mode only?
Good point was made. Do you allow new players to play legacy mode? Cos my friend seen me playing and said he will try it out also, but he could not play it, just new one and he did not like new version and gave up.
Im not IT master , but old version was running for many years, then what bugs must be fixed and so on, should be polished over the years?
Thats sad, never liked new one.
Just cos I like old version. Most likely that was the reason why I return time after time. Simple, nice overview easy to manage. Keep it simple.
I'm pretty sure I wont play new version of game.
I must agree, I have same feeling, my screenshots what I posted in said game, was deleted from the newspaper also.
But I still trying to be positive.
Can I report from website ?
I got another player ,same story - account pushing. And he openly saying he wont get banned cos he is using goldmarks.
Will see do they care 1-2 players or rest of the players from the map.
I got over GM thing, but account pushing its other thing. Then at least pay money into bank.
Cheaters must be banned not protected. Once they will get banned, will come back with fresh mindset and will most likely use more GM, as otherwise they just get all for free and no need to spend that much. If someone covering cheaters.
Ottomans pulled every single man at very start far away from his lands, to Pakistan. Most likely through Arab lands and cleared land there for Arabia.
Day 5 and Arabia got 53 provinces, but at very start he lost almost all his army to Hejaz. Don't know what happened in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, but also lands for free at day 3.
yeah definitely it was account pushing. I done first time report no action was taken, reported after 72h and with screenshots and a lot others players did report and he got banned.
But today my report button disappeared, is it bug or what is going on? I cant report noone anymore.
Thanks a lot. I had a hope its against rules, cos its against basic logic. That's perfect tool to take screenshots, I never used it.
You are superstar, cheers mate.
Here are some screenshots and I did report both of them.