Fire at will! - Patch Notes July 10, 2019

i need to check status of my arts on 500s

Hey I have a question regarding the default option, which says:

"Blocks and attacks close by neutral or enemy units, unless they have right of way."

Say I have a neighbor, who I have a verbal non aggression pact with for mutual benefit, represented in-game by a neutral relation between countries. If I for some reason had an artillery sitting in a city close enough to one of his, would it just shoot his armies?

If so, that is a terrible design choice. It would force me to either not keep units in that province, sign a right of way pact (which I might not want due to several reasons), or just fight him. It's even worse if the reason the artillery was there was because it was built in that province.

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Hey I have a question regarding the default option, which says:

"Blocks and attacks close by neutral or enemy units, unless they have right of way."

Say I have a neighbor, who I have a verbal non aggression pact with for mutual benefit, represented in-game by a neutral relation between countries. If I for some reason had an artillery sitting in a city close enough to one of his, would it just shoot his armies?

If so, that is a terrible design choice. It would force me to either not keep units in that province, sign a right of way pact (which I might not want due to several reasons), or just fight him. It's even worse if the reason the artillery was there was because it was built in that province.

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Would be even funnier with a railgun in a 500p map

just so it remains clear, you'll start war with everyone in the radius of your range units when in aggresive mode?

for the Fire at will option, i understand that close by would mean a few km away, not in the radius of the range units, right?

like when you put a few troops in the beach so it'd stop the disembark and before, unless you had embargo, it didn't trigger war with invaders, i guess now it'll work with peace too (?)

Return/hold fire, would it be like a secondary Right of Way? as it says "Units pass each other without combat"

I think it is " kill them all " in a radius

leave only friendlies alive

like Americans in Iraq

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I think it is " kill them all " in a radius

leave only friendlies alive

like Americans in Iraq

from my understanding that'd be the aggresive option, not the standard one

Fire at will (standard): Blocks and attacks close by neutral or enemy units, unless they have right of way.

I am guessing it is for non-range units

probably to block that advanced tactic where you were manipulating diplomacy

I would have kept the "Return/hold fire" as standard like before, if the intention is to make the naval blockade a thing, then set it so that embargo's triggers the "Fire at will" if units get close by, either neutral or enemy

right now embargo serves no purpose in-game, so this would be a way to give it a purpose

it makes no sense to not be able to navigate with naval units because of the fear of triggering war with everyone

bad update from my point of view

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I would have kept the "Return/hold fire" as standard like before, if the intention is to make the naval blockade a thing, then set it so that embargo's triggers the "Fire at will" if units get close by, either neutral or enemy

right now embargo serves no purpose in-game, so this would be a way to give it a purpose

it makes no sense to not be able to navigate with naval units because of the fear of triggering war with everyone

bad update from my point of view

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I agree with this firing at all neutrals is a bit overkill 'Imagens cases where you accidently cross neighbours in the ocean, and have a defensive position built out., If it was only aggressive mode I'd understand. Would be interesting addition for RP's as then you can truly claim "You need to pay to get though the straight of gibraltar" as then you don't need to be online 24/7 to attack somebody trying to slip through, but it should not be the default vs neutrals. On the sea for melee units I agree that the trade embargo should serve this purpose.

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• Fire at will (standard): Blocks and attacks close by neutral or enemy units, unless they have right of way.

I accidentally went to war with another player 4 times in the last 24 hours because my scouts would attack his units in the ocean.

I cant give him right of way, this change seems quite absurd.

same here, i had to turn off rally points leading through sea squares to avoid wars

Thanks for the feedback so far. We will revisit this change to fire controls once more and are likely to do some adjustments to meet player expectations better. This will take some time though.

Awful update.

Mainly, the update destroys the submarines' feature of being stealth and, in that way, bypassing stationary units in the sea.

It's so unreal... German Empire would have lost the WWI faster, had their submarines forced to attack any enemy unit in contact with them.

Agreed, I think these changes are absurd.. Not sure why touch something that worked well when there are so many other things that don't.

I test on different map with AI have from them on ROW if put army on Aggressive they will open fire . So update this time was a fail from me point.

I really hope to see tomorrow a removal of this new "feature".

got a better idea- to remove that feature you need to have HQ or pay Bytro 10 k GMs per month

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got a better idea- to remove that feature you need to have HQ or pay Bytro 10 k GMs per month

that'd be a scam, but if i had no choice, i'd take the "pay 10k GM per month" option

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that'd be a scam, but if i had no choice, i'd take the "pay 10k GM per month" option

agree with you

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agree with you

here's when the Fine Print comes and says

You can only pay those 10k GM per month with paid Goldmarks, not Goldmarks you earn by winning games.

that would be funny, annoying, but funny