Problems with the new version. The main screen isn't as clear cut as Legacy. You've got to constantly zoom in and out to effectively micro manage your troops in battle, and actually see what's going on as a whole. It's annoying and time consuming. The layout of the various windows are not as user friendly when playing from a laptop. I'm sure if I continue to mess around with it I can figure out a configuration where various windows aren't cut off, and you can't move them around like you can with windows from other programs, but do I want the hassle for a game I don't intend on continuing to play anyway? The espionage window is very ineffectual as compared to Legacy. Finally, the increased graphics, which add absolutely nothing to this game and are annoying, have increased the bandwidth required to play. I work for the Coast Guard, band width is at a premium and Legacy was at the cusp of it. Over my years playing I've spent hundreds of dollars, possibly thousands, on this game and you have lost my business. I am not alone. The current 500 game I'm in (my last game unless Legacy is brought back) is in day 12 with less than 220 players.
[S1914] Legacy-Removal Feedback Thread
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I am curious regarding the Refund process. I have played since 2015 and the Legacy version up until Tuesday. Please advise. Thx and good luck.
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Display MoreThe removal of legacy mode made me sick to my stomach. I loved this game, i have been playing since 2014 (or even earlier, i had to made a second account). The new game mode makes me blind, i can no longer see what i am doing. I do not understand where my guys are and where they are going to. I have read all the posts in this forum, so i will not repeat what my fellow generals have already covered. I will just add a simple thing: how can i report a player or a message? There used to be a simple button for this, now it is gone (it has been gone for a while now, not from yesterday). I think that this button has to be brought back.
Sadly enough this will be my last maps of Supremacy 1914. I have fought many battles, i am currently in the top 1000 players. I am a big fan of the 100 player maps, the 500 player maps take a bit to much of my concentration, but the 100 maps are perfect for me. Right now i am fighting on my own against an entire coalition of 4 players and i am beating them without GM. Or i was beating them? Hard to tell with the new visuals....
And i am happy that you have told me why you have left me, my beloved Supremacy 1914, oh i am so happy that you have told me why you have forsaken me. Money! Of course it is money. You can now see adds on your mobile phone! Hooray, sponsors! And these sponsors want that your game is as shit as all the other mobile games! But it has to look good. And yeay, the new game mode is shit to play and it looks good! Hooray, money. Losing all the quality players that love spending hours on this game in the process? That does not matter of course, we have money now and a lot of new players who play this game for a week on their mobile phone! And they watch adds! Fantastic!
Now i am forced to quit this game, this does make me a very sad person. This game has helped me through rough times, and it has certainly helped me through corona. But the removal of Supremacies legacy mode also brings me some joy, i will have more free time. I have lost a hobby now, but i will find a new one, or maybe i will even finally do some of the work that i have to do
Anyway, take care fellow generals, maybe i will come back in a few years (if i have the time) to enjoy the game again. If they make their promised improvements. Or should i say downgrades? Because the legacy mode was soooo bad, lol. But right now it is over and out for me.
PS: why is the the damn chat box open when i log into my games? It should be closed! I dont want to talk to other players
I want to play the damn game... Now it is blocking like 1/4th of the screen. And i have to close it each time that i log in.And PPS: No other general has posted this yet if i recall correctly: Rebellion! It is nearly impossible to see if your cities are revolting or not?
And even a PPPS: update the artillery animation. I cant see if they are firing or not? The legacy mode provided accurate info on the amount of shells shot.
totally agree - what will i do with my time now i will no longer play this game
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Hi, ich bezweifel, dass die neue Version die ganzen Möglichkeiten mit Legacy in Zukunft vereinen wird. Die neue Version gibt es schon länger und nichts hat sich in die Richtung getan. Lediglich grafisches Zeugs aber kampftechnisch gesehen hat sich nichts verbessert. Eher zum schlechteren. Worauf ich natürlich sehr viel Wert lege bei einem Kriegsspiel! Die neue Version wurde von mir ab und zu getestet und für nicht gut genug empfunden.
Hey, mir fällt gerade ein, es ist bald Sommer und an der Sonne ist es auch schön.
Ich werde wohl auch erstmal nicht spielen, sei denn es gibt mir jemand einen guten Grund.
Sorry, aber die technischen Möglichkeiten und zeitlichen Ersparnisse bei Legacy überwiegen den Bedürfniss die neue Version zu spielen.
Vielleicht ist es ja in einem halben Jahr anders? Naja, mal sehen...
MfG, Graflord
i dont think we can make it look EXACTLY like legacy mode, but im sure bytro would listen if we provide suggestions to make it closer to it, like the low graphics mode is already a huge improvement for me
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Legacy mode is better than current
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I play on many servers and I realized that more and more users leave games, not to mention double accounts.
Scenarios such as South America, Battle of the Balkans, battle for Western Europe, are no longer played and the others immediately abandoned, few players remain to fight against AI.
This is a really valid point. One of my roles was to play in some tutorial games to spot new talent for our Alliance. Since the new UI came in almost every game gets abandoned by most new players almost immediately. Yes there were always lots of drop outs but never this bad.
The new UI was supposed to attract new blood but how many stick around for even a full game....
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Oh dear, you know you messed up when rivaling players all join to say you messed up big time.
I wont be writting paragraphs upon paragraphs, what I wanted to say about the new version was already said by Hastings,Golden Buddha,Baptised InVodka,Furry1, Zerok3005,Vinnie81 and many others.I am just putting my support to their statments on here.
Also don't be suprised we have little trust in the devs,revamp has been around for a few years now and we keep giving back the same feedback on it yet nothing is done.You want us happy give us Legacy,it could be the low graphics mode or finally take our feedback into account and change something and not run after money.
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guys just go on strike
don't play for several months.
once they see everyone leaving they will learn the error of the ways.
boycott it.
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Bytro had 3 years to respond to the suggestions from the community
and to change some features.
Nothing happened.
Now, it's a game for people, who like
3D-ships as big as Sardinien and watch ads
for some Goldmark.
It's over.
Get used to it.
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Legacy will not be reimplemented as the reason behind its removal was that it runs seperately from the standard mode and eats up too much ressources regarding maintenance. We can however adjust the standard client in order to better reflect the look of legacy if legacy fans provide us with conrete points that we can work on in order to make it happen.
Thanks for pointing out the border issues.scrap the standard mode since it's unplayable, and restore the legacy mode as the standard mode (which it originally was) and hire some game designers who know what they are doing. The game is conceptually great, it's the interface that needs a lot of work. This way maintenance is simplified, without the problems of trying to implement an inferior product. The problem driving me out is the continuous scrolling of the map, those stupid cards marking our units, and blocking visibility on the map. Find out who likes the new mode and why. Don't try to reinvent the wheel when you have a perfectly good one, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
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I have been playing since March 2012. I consider the new version a disaster, totally unplayable. However, I want to try and wait a while before giving up the game to see if they listen to the complaints of those who consider the new (and only) version to be an unquestionable deterioration. It's not just the graphics that have changed, the new version completely changes the spirit of the game, the concept. It's no longer a strategy game, now it's a little game where the goal is to buy lots of golds to get more weapons than the opponent. All without any logic, without planning, without strategy....but with more attractive graphics. Wow! Let's see what happens, if nothing changes I will add myself to the list of those who will be forced by the developers to abandon. Thanks....
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Take the pleasure of going to the archives and looking for the 2018 revamp discussions.
The feedback was the same as it is now.
Since there has been no improvement, all those who already left the feedback then went back to the legacy, and now we are all over again.
Our opinion, our feedback, all this, is useless.
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Just my view
Have been playing since 2009 - - Field Marshall at present
Liked the game a lot and enjoyed playing with people of the same ilk
Now that legacy has been removed -cant play any more
Did try a few years back and last week but the GUI was an utter mess in 'my' eys
Am sure that some people like it -- maybe they had no choice as an option may not have been given to them
But to folks who have played with the legacy system for a number of years, learning a new style of GUI that is overloaded with graphics, does not add to the game but only distracts from it is a pain
I am not going to spend my time learning or trying to learn on a system when I know the better one is still there
I Will look back in a few weeks to see if anything changes, if not will leave for good
I am one in 1,000's so am sure it won't be a great loss but am sure there are quite a few people like me
Bye
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not even city queue is working
I was looking for New York by name and could not find it in my provinces
it happens very often that you have city for weeks and it is not present on the list
please fix whole Revamp ASAP so people are able to select units and cities , use them, build units and buildings , make trades with others - without that game it is not possible to play
in that stage I am surprised someone even allowed that 'thing' go live as this is broken in every possible way
it reminds more like pre-alpha prototype on a kick starter trying to get people to sponsor it
I am not interested in sponsoring it
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Ladies and gentlemen of Bytro,
I believe you are facing a decision here similar to the decision Coca-Cola faced in 1985 when they changed the formula for their product. If you're not aware of what happened back then I strongly recommend that you do a little research and discover what transpired before it's too late.
All of us that are saying we are not happy with your decision regarding Legacy are NOT just being a bunch of petulant children that are acting up because mommy doesn't want to give us some candy. We're your customers, your friends, and even your cheerleaders at times so please stop treating us as though we're something else.
This all boils down to a simple question, "Is this the hill you want to die on?" If you can't understand that saying, let me translate it for you a little. In other words, are you so absolutely sure that your decision is the right one that you would be willing to sacrifice your very own life rather than change it?
You say give you some time to change things and make it better but we've already given you almost 3 years and very little has happened in that time. As a further suggestion, I would say give us a timeframe and schedule of when things will take place. Something similar to the old MS Project with hard projections and goals that we can see. IF you cannot do this, I also suggest that you return Legacy mode until you can establish a Project guideline and then begin implementing it. IF you require any assistance with how to deal with Project Development, please contact me. I've been a Project Lead on many things over the decades.
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I am not happy with Revamp been completely broken to the point that playing maps is becoming impossible
too many glitches, bugs, display issues, lags
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We will definitely take a look at the size of 3D models and the option to reduce their size, or implement a map filter that will not display them so you can purely work with army labels.
Best thing you can do is to give us an option for "tactical armies display", the original version of this ReVamp UI had such an option, (This Tactical armies is still visible button does not work on mobil app) this one thing will keep your veteran players playing.
Kind Regards, Hastings TNT
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I also want to chime in to say several improvements have been taskified already and some are already being worked on. They will of course not make the game look like legacy (it really wont come back), but they will adress some of the usability concerns raised here, especially in terms of readability of the map and also usability of certain interfaces. We cannot adress everything as often times opinions also differ, but we agree that the current version is not perfect and we will continue working on it. Although you should'nt expect a drastic change in visuals, you will certainly like some of the improvements that we plan to do. Due to how our release schedule works and how booked the upcoming weeks already are for our Devs it is likely though that the changes will take several weeks to be released to the live version of the game. I hope you can hang in there!
But improvements will definitely be happening, it's not just an empty phrase. You can take a look at Call of War, we actually removed the old view mode there (called Canvas) as well over a month ago. The initial reaction to that was similar to here, but we collected a lot of feedback and made changes and now the feedback got much better already. How things turned out in CoW was a good proof of concept. I hope that we can achieve the same here.
I can also tell you that turning off the old view modes in CoW and S1914 has so far barely been noticable in the games' KPIs (metrics), so you don't need to worry that the games are going down due to these changes. Far from it, we are making them ready for the future! And you and your feedback will certainly play a part in this, so a big thanks to everyone for their help and loyalty over all these years.
Keep the feedback coming!
